[ Steve sings Ceremony at this gig!  Do you have a complet set list? ]

[ Steve sings Ceremony again at this concert. ]

[ Steve sings part of Ceremony at this gig! ]

[ Gillian Gilbert's first gig with the band ]

[ "Expectation was high for the old jd fans who really wanted the band to
succeed.  I can't remember much about the tracks played on the night, as
ever the gig was over before we knew it.  However I remember coming away
knowing I'd seen something special.  20 years on the new material is just
as fresh."  Thanks to Neill Cordon for the memory!  ]

Souncheck (15 minutes):  Senses, Truth

Soundcheck (25 minutes):  Love Will Tear Us Apart, Walked In A Line,
No Love Lost, Digital, Decades, Atmosphere, Ceremony, Truth

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  ICB, Senses

Soundcheck:  The Him, Denial (aka "Little Dead")

Soundcheck (5 minutes):   Denial, Senses

[ From 'A Factory Complication' ]

** Mystery Solved ** An Anonymous Insider explains everything with this:
"The mystery venue was not in Wales. It was Bodiam Castle in Kent. The weather was
not good that day, very rainy, and by the time we got there the road crew had set up
the stage - imagine a square and the stage would have been across one corner, but
their opinion was that due to the general wetness and the rain driving into the
equipment it would not be safe to play. Accordingly, after much discussion, the
gig was cancelled, ticket holders were given a ticket for free entry into Heaven a
day or 2 later, and we made our way back to London and went our separate ways." ]

Soundcheck (10 minutes):   Chosen Time, Temptation

[ "On this date, Rolling Stone writer and music critic Greil Marcus was in
attendance at the I-Beam Club, and wrote about the gig, which you can read
about in Marcus' book "Ranters, Ravers and Crowd Pleasers" which was
published in 1993."  The above was brought to you by Eric I. Wang. ]

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  Temptation (instrumental), Hurt (instrumental)

Soundcheck (20 minutes):   Temptation, Leave Me Alone,
Everything's Gone Green, Improvisation(?)

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  Leave Me Alone, Ultraviolence

Soundcheck (20 minutes):  The Passenger (instrumental), Hurt (instrumental), 586

Soundcheck (10 minutes):   Ceremony

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  Hurt (instrumental), Temptation

[ Apparently this venue has since been converted into yuppie flats. ]

Soundcheck (20 minutes):  Your Silent Face (instrumental), Blue Monday, ICB

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  ICB

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  586, Everything's Gone Green

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  586, Everything's Gone Green

[ "Only some of us at Atlanta's 688 club knew the significance of the evening.
It was New Order's first US gig... after Ian Curtis' suicide had halted Joy
Division's scheduled US tour. Nonetheless, some bastard yelled "Where's
Ian?" as the drumulators and other synths kicked in. (Hooky replied with a
"F*** off!" that was met with cheers. "Confusion" was new to everyone at the
time. The volume seemed to double in the middle of "In a Lonely Place" and
the band had enough sound gear for a space twice as big as the cramped 688.
The X and the trip kicked in just in time. It was epic... and unforgettable.
I have a bootleg cassette of the gig... somewhere."
Mega-thanks to Mark Bedford for recalling the famous 688 gig for us! ]

Soundcheck (30 minutes) includes parts of: Denial, In A Lonely Place,
Thieves Like Us, Procession, Wilderness, Decades, Blue Monday,
Temptation, Age Of Consent, Cries & Whispers

[ Venue also known as the 'Billy Barty Roller Rink'.  Billy Barty is (was)
a midget entertainer of great renown. ]

Soundcheck (65 minutes):  Leave Me Alone, 586, Lonesome Tonight,
Thieves Like Us (instrumental), Confusion, Age Of Consent

[ May be a bogus or misslabled concert... Do you know the correct date for this gig?]

Soundcheck (25 minutes):  Blue Monday, 586, Leave Me Alone

Soundcheck (90 minutes):   Your Silent Face, Face Up, Blue Monday,
Everything's Gone Green, Temptation, 586

Soundcheck (5 minutes):   Confusion

Blue Monday, Age Of Consent, Lonesome Tonight, Your Silent Face,
Dreams Never End, Face Up, Thieves Like Us, Confusion, 586,  Temptation

Soundcheck (90 minutes):  Your Silent Face (inst), The Perfect Kiss (inst),
Love Will Tear Us Apart (bass), Hurt, The Perfect Kiss

[ May have been New Order's first appearance on a bill with Keith Allen ]

[  Martin Doubtfire remembers this, "Sadly, and i think it might have been
Thieves like us on top of the pops or something, but Barnard wore a leather
motorbike jacket, and at the gig after this, The Royal Festival Hall, so
did 3/4 of the audience !!!" ]

[ Jon ten Have had this to say about this concert, "It appeared to be a gig
in remembrance of IC who died four years earlier. The band was very hostile
towards the audience and reminded them of the Rotterdam gig some years
before when a big fight broke out after they had only played 20 minutes.
The encore included Decades and Love will ..., it was made clear to the
audience that it wasn't for them but for a friend who died some years ago." ]

Soundcheck (20 minutes):  Sooner Than You Think (instrumental), Age Of Consent,
Everything's Gone Green

Soundcheck (15 minutes):  no setlist  

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  Your Silent Face (instrumental)

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  Sooner Than You Think, Sunrise

Soundcheck (25 minutes):   Sooner Than You Think, Leave Me Alone, The Village,
Sooner Than You Think

[ "New Order didn't do an encore although the crowd were screaming.  The lights
came on and the roadies were packing away the gear.  Someone must have said
something out of line because one roadie jumps down from the stage chasing a
guy in the audience arms and fists all over the place quickly followed by another
roadie to make sure of it.  Barney was blonde that night and the computers were
playing for about five minutes before the band came on.  The stage was an
explosion of sound, with no New Order!" Mucho thanks to Winston Winand!]

Soundcheck (10 minutes):  Thieves Like Us, Love Will Tear Us Apart (partial),
Confusion (partial), Ultraviolence

[ "First try of 'Perfect Kiss' definitely aborted 'cos of equipment problems...
Gillian's synth was playing up and a roadie came on to try and sort it out.
They then played 'Ceremony' to fill in the time till he got the synth working."
Thanks to Philip Collins for the details! ]

[ David Ewing remembers Bernard's Ethiopian prostitute joke
as... "More men than HOT DINNERS- not Guiness" ]

Soundcheck (45 minutes):   Confusion (instrumental), The Perfect Kiss (instrumental),
This Time Of Night (instrumental), Subculture, Elegia

Soundcheck (45 minutes):   The Perfect Kiss, Hurt, and more...

[ Barney Introduces 'Thieves Like Us' as 'Twats Like Us'. ]

[ "The Powerhouse was a great gig.  It is a standing room venue and
 was totally sold-out.  The atmosphere was electric and audience
expectation was palpable as they walked on stage.  The start was
fantastic as Barney picked up his axe (err, melodica) and launched
into "Your Silent Face" backed by a tremendous wall-of-sequencer
sound.  They then quickly moved into Sub-culture; with Hooky
unleashed the crowd went gaga and stayed that way for the rest
of the gig.

My indelible moment is just before The Drums start in Sunrise.
My brother is slightly ahead of me in the crowd and he has jumped
so far into the air in anticipation of this moment that the whole top
half of his body is visible above the rest of the crowd :-)

Barney quote before final encore (paraphrased) "Does anybody
know what today is?  Come on, some one shout it out" (note: it may or
may not be significant that it was past midnight at this point).
They played "Love Will Tear Us Apart", and the audience
goes even more gaga (if that were possible)."

Douglas Miller is indeed 'the man'!  Thanks for the detailed account. ]

Soundcheck:  Love Vigilantes...

[ Matthew Jones attended this concert and recalled these fun comments,
"...they were really grumpy.  Barney was abusing the audience and
generally making himself unpopular.  When they did the encore Hooky
came on stage alone and said "...They don't give a fuck about New Zealand,
I do, my mother was born here..." and ripped into 'Age Of Consent'."   ]

[ An article mentions Bernard's comment that the Sounds reviewer
(who gave a really bad review) was "completely out of her box
drunk, blacked out" when they were playing.  In all fairness they
came on about 2 1/2 hours late and everyone was out of the box
by the time the went on and they where not that hot. First tune
was excellent though.  Thanks to Justin Keeble for this info. ]

[ I was at the Aug. 4 1985 concert in Toronto. The whole thing was
videotaped at the side of the stage by local radio station  CFNY.
They later played part of the audio of this tape  on air. Peter Hook
introduces Age of Consent by asking the crowd " Have any kids? No?
Then fuck ya." He also says during the programmed intro to
The Perfect Kiss "Saves use doing it I suppose."
Thanks to James for his account of this concert! ]

Here's a clarification from Paul Boyd... (Thanks!)

[ With apologies to James, I am the person who videotaped the concert. I
was permitted to with do so with permission of Rob Gretton and the band
who furnished me with a stereo board feed. Previously, I also had done a
stereo television simulcast with Durutti Column, another Factory artist
here in Toronto. I was not affiliated with CFNY in any way. CFNY did
indeed record the concert with a full 24 track analog audio recorder via
mobile truck, and it was sent to the band to remix. It was remixed and
edited ( the band did not want a live radio recording available of  " As
It Is When It Was " as the BROTHERHOOD album had not been released yet )
and the station aired it a number of times. The videotape that was made
has since been remastered to digital dvd to preserve it. I own the
copyright of that recording. Though there are no plans to release it
commercially, Steve Morris told me after he'd viewed it the the band
liked the recording much more than the Tokyo show "Pumped Full of
Drugs". " We played better in Toronto and we liked the look of your
video better, a bit darker looking ". ] 

[ "I don't remember the opening band for the show or if there was one.  The
show started very late.  Bernard changed the lyric in Love Vigilantes' from
 'I was a brave, brave man but that I was dead' to "I was a stupid cunt and
 that I got shot.' much to the chagrin of the crowd, 'Blue Monday was not
on the setlist that evening."  Thanks to ry_guy_dallas@yahoo.com for the info. ]

[ A second entry comes from Ron Richards...

"I remember with absolute clarity certain things about this show because I
happened to work for the local promoter of this event and was a local
college DJ at the time. I had backstage access for the show and I handled
the catering and dealt with their special needs.

#1-  I was supposed to be at a Saturday Evening class at the University
writing a Final term paper for my letter grade and I ditched class, took the
"F" for the semester and had a blast doing it.

#2-Bernie didn't say 2 words after the show. The rest of the band were
backstage signing autographs for the lucky few who were allowed backstage to
meet the band. I remember distinctly that this one girl asked Peter to sign
her Mickey Mouse Sweatshirt and he drew a large penis on Mickey and signed
his name on the big penis (swear to God!). I was able to get Stephen to
accompany me down a long hallway and into an area of shower stalls so that I
could get him to record a promo for our local radio station. We chatted
briefly about who knows what. Gillian sat at a table & was rambling on about
her cats to somebody while Bernie sat in a foldout chair leaned back on 2
legs against the wall with his head staring down at the ground.

#3- The band started 45 minutes late due to the fact that they couldn't find
the venue. The venue actually was on the county fairgrounds in a rather
rustic old indoor circular barn for indoor animal competitions I guess...
The floor was solid hard dirt & was very dusty inside. Peter had a hell of a
time with the synthesized drum kit and started banging on it like a madman
disregarding certain songs which they happened to be performing. Someone
shouted for "Blue Monday during their 1st encore. Peter yelled back at the
guy saying that he "could go home & listen to it on (his) record if (he)
fancied" & that they were sick of the song. They then broke into Temptation
followed by Mesh. The 2nd Encore was "Love Vigilantes". I also do know that
during the show they played "State of The Nation", "Perfect Kiss",
"Confusion", "This Time Of Night", "Age Of Consent", "Subculture" and
several more. The show lasted a good 1 1/4 hours which I didn't expect since
they came on late. The DIDN'T play "Thieves Like US" which pissed me off to
no end." ]